School Of Permaculture - Nicholas Burtner - arrogant with Messiah Complex

Many people in the permaculture community have had similar experiences with Nicholas Burtner.Ranging from arrogance and a know-it-all attitude (sadly without knowing it all) to a picture of Jesus on his wall where he teaches that conveniently looks just like him.

I took a short workshop with him and found his information to be very basic and when trying to correct him, he is quick to deflect or dismiss.

He pays no attention to accepting feedback (a permaculture principle) especially from people more experienced from him.He also relentlessly advertises any class that he can by giving paltry information that links to his website.

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    • Delusional person
    • Lacking knowledge
    • Messiah complex

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Feb 17 #1113588 Bridgeport, Texas

Even a simple question about the courses at School of Permaculture directed at Nicholas Burtner left me feeling uncomfortable. He answered my questions, but quickly turned the conversation to a religious message. I have no problem with anyone having any belief they choose, but it is a poor business move to be evangelical during a simple conversation. Not being an evangelical Christian myself, I decided to not do business with the School of Permaculture or Nicholas Burtner.

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Aug 27, 2015 #1025622

This guy has serious issues!

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Aug 27, 2015 #1025621

It's actually nice to see a true review. Hopefully it will help him grow. He needs to get a grip and stop trying to be everyone's savior. ugh. What a bummer. Hopefully he gets a reality check soon and gets it together? we'll see.

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Aug 26, 2015 #1025618

Yeah, totally came off as a creep to me in the end.

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Aug 27, 2015 #1025626

This above comment was provided by another teacher, as feedback, after sharing the original complaint link with them. Posted with their permission.

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Aug 26, 2015 #1025615

omg! this is soo truth about Nick!!finally someone has posted this I love it!!! lol!! his chicken dance during the whole class? soo unprofessional! we all were soo disappointed of his attitude and knowledge, that I felt like it was waste of money.

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Jul 26, 2015 #1012218

I would not recommend NB for design our facilitation. Took his PDC and 90% of the students were underwhelmed. Condescending, narcissistic, often cites conspiracies without scientific backing and exaggerates accomplishments; including personal methods and resources. Is NOT a legally listed non-profit. The women in the class felt uncomfortable from his advances. Lines his pockets on the hard-working backs of volunteers. Misleading marketing and has put students in dangerous situations. Seeks glory, fame and credit through the diligence of others. Is a good cheerleader for permaculture but that's about it. Has the personality of a charismatic cult leader. Ask to see his portfolio.

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Jul 26, 2015 #1012209

I've seen him sexually harassing young women in various locations/situations as well as talking about women in completely sexist fashion in front of colleagues. He lacks experience and expertise.

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